[Tccc] ComSoc techni...
Henning Schulzrinne
hgsatcs.columbia.edu
Sun Jun 2 14:07:24 EDT 2013
I see this exercise more of as the equivalent of the health grades posted near
the restaurant door, e.g., A, B and C in New York. Lots of non-gourmet
restaurants are graded A, but most people would probably think twice before
eating at a C-grade restaurant.
Unless you want to abandon the "technical co-sponsorship" concept for ComSoc or
want to make this completely subjective, you need some criteria that indicate a
minimum level of "academic hygiene".
Similarly, you and other senior members of the community have no difficulty
recommending "good" conferences for your students to submit papers to. The
ComSoc stamp of approval is one way for others, e.g., those new to the
community, to separate the sham conferences, of which there are obviously many,
from the reasonable ones.
As far as I can tell, the logical conclusion of your argument would be that
ComSoc should either technically co-sponsor every conference or none, or make
the decision completely subjectively, leaving it subject to the justifiable
conclusion that this is an old boy's club.
Henning
On Jun 2, 2013, at 1:43 PM, CCNY wrote:
> I second the opinions of some colleagues here that such attempts at
> quantifying the "best conferences" with a set of metrics is wrong as well as
> inutile.
> It is tempting to design a template by which conferences could be measured
> and thus passing the process of judging conferences to a computer. However
> this approach is just wrong and is not the right discussion to improve the
> overall efficacy of conferences.
> This is not the same process by which food critics judge a restaurant by
> factors like menu, taste, presentation, cleanliness, decor, service, and
> others
> Fortunately enough the process of selecting noteworthy scientific papers for
> presentation is by far quite involved and could not be quantified by
> straightforward simple parameters.
> It takes years of experience and practice for one to be capable of passing a
> thorough opinion on an event or even a paper.
>
> Prof Ibrahim Habib
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 2, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Marco Mellia <mel... at tlc.polito.it> wrote:
>
>> something like this ?
>> http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~almeroth/conf/stats/
>>
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>> Il giorno 2Jun, 2013, alle ore 5:59 PM, Giuseppe Bianchi
>> <giuseppe.bian... at uniroma2.it> ha scritto:
>>
>>>
>>>> In replacement of "acceptance rate", once a friend tried to convince me
>>>> about adding some factors as the absolute number of submited/accepted
>>>> papers and the number of attendees. Perhaps he is right and acceptance
>>>> rate just make sense if we analyze all conference context.
>>> Loosely related to your comment, I'd definitely like to see something
>>> like the below table, maintained by the crypto and security community,
>>> also for networking conferences.
>>>
>>> http://icsd.i2r.a-star.edu.sg/staff/jianying/conference-ranking.html
>>>
>>> True, senior persons here around can easily "guess" what are the events
>>> which would be at the top according to these criteria (and hence where
>>> it is really worth to submit your best work), but having it black on
>>> white would be quite instructive (esp. if we further account for
>>> attendees per track).
>>>
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