[Tccc] Research without Walls

j.agbinya@ib2com.org j.agbinya
Mon Oct 24 18:55:07 EDT 2011


What goes around comes around. Suppose we all refuse
to review any papers from these organisations! Or
buy products from other sources and not from them.

We do not really have to use google products,
same goes for Microsoft.


Johnson
Quoting Renato Lo Cigno <locigno at disi.unitn.it>:

>
> I fully agee with Mani and Luigi: almost (to the best of my
> knowledge) no serius publisher today prevent authors to
> publish on their web pages a pre-print PDF or their works,
> provided proper credits and the link (DOI is fine) to the
> official source.
>
> Thus the issue of open access and the pledge to "open
> science" s very often misleading if not a mischief,
> sometimes just the excuse to ask authors to pay for
> publishing their work (which really prevents poor
> scientists to publish!), or adding advertisements to their
> on-line sites.
>
> The "traditional" approach has still a couple of advantages:
> 1) If people pay to read the works this is a long-term
>     filter on quality far better than any peer review;
> 2) Serious scientific journals (not magazines, clearly!) are
>     still free from advertisement: google and microsoft
>     search engines are not!!!
>
> My 2c
> Renato Lo Cigno
> http://disi.unitn.it/locigno
>
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2011, Luigi Iannone wrote:
>
>> So, if I get the pledge straight the pledger are telling me (and  
>> the community):
>>
>> "Please review my papers but be aware that I will not review yours."
>>
>> Sounds highly unfair to me.
>>
>> Luigi Iannone
>> Senior Research Scientist
>> Telekom Innovation Laboratories / TU Berlin
>>
>>
>> On Oct 22, 2011, at 17:37 , Jakob Eriksson wrote:
>>
>>> I just read about this interesting initiative on Slashdot, with  
>>> the summary:
>>>
>>> "Prominent Computer Science researchers from Google, Microsoft and  
>>> UC Berkeley are starting to sign the 'Research Without Walls'  
>>> pledge, promising to never be involved in peer review for a venue  
>>> that does not make publications available to the public for free."
>>>
>>> http://www.researchwithoutwalls.org/
>>>
>>> I'm probably going to sign this pledge myself, but I thought it'd  
>>> be interesting to have a discussion about it before I do so. What  
>>> are people's thoughts on open access publishing?
>>>
>>> Jakob Eriksson
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> University of Illinois at Chicago
>>>
>>>
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