[Tccc] The flower standard

Marco Ajmone Marsan ajmoneatpolito.it
Mon Dec 10 09:14:37 EST 2012



 
Can you please take this off this list?
Thanks.
marco
  


On 12/10/2012 2:06 PM, Pars Mutaf wrote:
> You published the same yes and *there is my name and Web address* on it,
> which you cannot modify because I published the hash of the file.
>
> Are you sure that you understand the topic? No pb if you don't that's
> normal.
>
> 1. The hash uniquely represents the file
> 2. I publish the hash
> 3. I get time-stamped the hash instead of the file itself because not
> giving the control of the file to service providers is a good idea.
>
> Pars
>
> PS:
> You should decide if this list is for scientific discussion of CFP
> announcement. I am confused each time I come here :-)
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Nikos Fotiou <fot... at aueb.gr> wrote:
>
>> Pars,
>> I have published the exact same file  (not even a single word changed)
>> with a complete different hash. You can find it here
>> http://pages.cs.aueb.gr/~fotiou/files/output.pdf
>> Hashing is about protecting file representation (its bytes if you
>> will) and not the actual file content. Perceptual hash would have
>> probably done that job better.
>>
>> In any case I think this "standard" has received more attention from
>> the list, that it deserves.
>>
>> Best,
>> Nikos
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Pars Mutaf <pars.mu... at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> In case people would doubt this standard's security (which would be
>> normal
>>> because it is new):
>>>
>>> I protect my work using the Flower Standard as follows:
>>>
>>> The following link is my original work and I want to protect this idea:
>>>
>>> http://www.freewebs.com/pmutaf/notall-eng-dec10-2012.pdf
>>>
>>> I put a flower sign in it, take the file's "digest" and publish the
>> digest
>>> at for example Twitter which shows that I published this idea today. The
>>> digest can be viewed here:
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/parsmutaf/status/278066437086654464<
>> http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fparsmutaf%2Fstatus%2F278066437086654464&h=DAQE8P8Ff&s=1
>>>
>>>
>>> The process takes less than 1 minute. I suspect that it is more secure
>> than
>>> the patent/copyright office. The whole planet knows now for certain that
>> I
>>> published this idea first.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pars Mutaf
>>> flower-standard.org
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>
>


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