[Tccc] + Re: Auto Generated paper in IEEEXplore Database

Sakib Pathan sakib.pathan
Fri Mar 23 05:06:19 EDT 2012


Dear All,

Kindly noting that ...

I noted that my email does not need any reply but everybody might have
opinion to post. I hope this short number of emails will be enough for
someone in the critical position to get informed. The respect is tough to
earn, easy to lose. The main point is that when quality and legitimacy are
questioned, we need some kind of reference scale. While other Digital
Libraries so far could not give me this impression of having an
Auto-Generated paper in their records, these garbage items in IEEEXPlore
put forward all those questions that you might be asking to your mind;
especially when this is the sentence written on top, "*Delivering full text
access to the world's highest quality technical literature in engineering
and technology*"

Someone among others wrote to me personally when I sent the first email
(March 18, 2012) about an auto-generated paper recorded in a suspicious
journal that the venue has no legitimacy. Now, if IEEEXplore has same kind
of thing but in more than 1 quantity, it really gets the same treatment of
losing "legitimacy". And the term legitimacy must be standardized first.

Sometimes it's difficult to put points against some of the high ranked
people who vigorously defend IEEE and all of its actions. I understand that
any such resource could have low-quality papers, may be even a very naive
idea, or silly idea or even copy-paste but at least own created/written
paper, but such kind of auto-generated thing really makes things
questionable. It should be difficult to monitor each paper accepted in
every sponsored or co-sponsored or condoned so-so level conferences, but at
least before uploading those rubbishes in the system of SUCH high use and
reliance, a final checking method should be in place to ensure the quality
statement, delivery of "highest quality technical literature" or "high
quality technical literature" and "no auto-generated rubbish quality"

Compared to other resources, now it is looking ridiculous. Here's another
one, most probably IEEEXplore also allows Chinese papers that I may be
unaware of. I clicked with English Abstract, got Chinese idea!

"*The Detection of Unusual Events in Video Based on Bayesian Surprise Model*",

URL: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=5691590&tag=1

This model really made me surprised! If the authors were able to write a
nice abstract in English, I do believe they could write the entire thing in
English.

Every time an opinion is posted, some enemies are created and some friends
are created. Often instead of taking responsibility, silly comments are
made. IEEE should resolve these issues from the top ranks. There must be
some real researchers there. There are lots of people curiously searching
for more faults that they could not find in some of the other established
resources.

We need IEEE, but no such surprise, please. I now feel that it is possible
to list all of these emails posted here and publish in a conference that
puts all PDFs in the IEEEXplore digital library without checking. That will
be a high-impact RESEARCH paper to download from the resource!

Regards,
Sakib

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Muzaffer Kanaan <mkanaan at erciyes.edu.tr>wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I have followed this discussion with great interest. Of course, it is a
> pity
> to see people resort to things like SciGen just to gain acceptance(?) for
> their work. What I find alarming, however, is that such papers should show
> up in conferences associated with a reputable technical organization like
> the IEEE. Such papers could seriously damage IEEE's own credibility.
>
> I am sure that these papers  would not have been accepted at the
> conferences
> (let alone indexed in IEEEXplore) if the proper review process had been
> adhered to.
>
> IMHO, IEEE should audit all the conferences that it sponsors to make sure
> that all papers go through a proper review process with at least two
> reviewers. IEEE would withdraw its sponsorship from any conference that it
> deems have a lax paper review process. Whose responsibility within IEEE
> that
> should be, I don't know. Perhaps the actual society or technical committee
> that sponsors the conference?
>
> Regards,
>
> Muzaffer Kanaan, Ph.D.
>
> Assistant Professor
> Erciyes University
> Faculty of Engineering
> Department of Mechatronics Engineering
> Melikgazi 38039 KAYSERI - TURKEY
> Email: mkanaan at erciyes.edu.tr
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tccc-bounces at lists.cs.columbia.edu
> [mailto:tccc-bounces at lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of ali ahmed
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 5:09 AM
> To: sakib.pathan at gmail.com; tccc
> Subject: Re: [Tccc] Auto Generated paper in IEEEXplore Database
>
>
> Dear All
> Interesting to see this.
>
> I have not read whole paper. I Just generate a paper with SCIgen and
> compare
> with ieee paper. I find the below similarities.
> 1.Pattern of Figures are similar
> 2.Pattern of Evaluation graphs are similar
> 3.Even reference years range is somehow similar i.e year 1999 to 2005. -:)
> 4.They are others papers as well,which are  generated by SCIgen and
> accepted
> in IEEE
>
> http://diehimmelistschoen.blogspot.com/2009/01/another-paper-has-been-accept
> ed-for.html
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Dr. Aneel Rahim
> Ulsan University,Korea
>
> > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:49:54 +0800
> > From: sakib.pathan at gmail.com
> > To: tccc at lists.cs.columbia.edu
> > Subject: [Tccc] Auto Generated paper in IEEEXplore Database
> >
> > Dear Colleagues,
> >
> > Once again I may be bothering you but this is very important to note this
> > in this group as some very critical 'decision makers' often are seen here
> > to advise others what to do. Here's a recently published paper available
> in
> > IEEEXplore:
> >
> > Xuemei You, "Research on the Intrusion Detection System in Wireless Mesh
> > Networks", Second International Conference on Computer Modeling and
> > Simulation, 2010. ICCMS '10
> >
>
> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/search/srchabstract.jsp?tp=&arnumber=5421509&open
>
> edRefinements%3D*%26filter%3DAND%28NOT%284283010803%29%29%26searchField%3DSe<http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/search/srchabstract.jsp?tp=&arnumber=5421509&open%0AedRefinements%3D*%26filter%3DAND%28NOT%284283010803%29%29%26searchField%3DSe>
> arch+All%26queryText%3Dintrusion+detection+systems+in+wireless+mesh+network
> >
> > At least as a reader of the topic, I can say it's a non-sense and very
> > likely an auto-generated paper using SciGen (
> > http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/). The current conference website that
> > previously published this may be this one:
> > http://www.iccms.org/iccms2010.htm (please correct me if I am wrong,
> > apologies if I hurt anybody by wrongly mentioning things). It's not a
> blame
> > game. It must be understood that there are highs and lows in any field.
> > Low-quality things often support high-quality things by proving their
> > status low. So, accept those as they are. Some people must need venues
> like
> > those. Somebody noted about some organizations previously who are
> allegedly
> > destroying the reputation of so-and-so organization. But, my concern is
> > that whether IEEE approves all the papers in IEEEXplore or not, why would
> I
> > get such a paper in my area (or at least as a reader of the topic or as a
> > naive person who wants to know) that is an auto-generated rubbish?
> >
> > Often some of you reply here or personally email with very awry remarks
> and
> > sharp comments. There are seniors and juniors here. This email does not
> > need any reply but what is needed is that while a standard is claimed, we
> > should also try to maintain the standard. While others may be doing
> things
> > in their styles, have I checked my own style? this paper must be removed
> > from IEEEXplore Digital Library, whatever the conference level was or
> > whoever was associated with such-and-such exchange of money.
> >
> > The paper has the CLEAR MARK: IEEE Computer Society, 2010. Hope I am
> clear.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Sakib
> >
> > --
> > Al-Sakib Khan Pathan, Ph.D.
> > Founding Head, NDC Laboratory <http://staff.iium.edu.my/sakib/ndclab>,
> > KICT, IIUM
> >
> > Assistant Professor & FYP Coordinator, Department of Computer Science
> > Kulliyyah (Faculty) of Information and Communication Technology
> > International Islamic University Malaysia (IIUM)
> > Jalan Gombak, 53100, Kuala Lumpur, MALAYSIA
> > Tel:  +603-61964000 Ext. 5653, Cell: +60163910754
> > E-Mails: spathan at ieee.org, sakib at iium.edu.my
> >
> > Personal URL: http://staff.iium.edu.my/sakib/
> > <https://sites.google.com/site/spathansite/>NDC Lab URL:
> > http://staff.iium.edu.my/sakib/ndclab/
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-- 
Al-Sakib Khan Pathan, Ph.D.
Founding Head, NDC Laboratory <http://staff.iium.edu.my/sakib/ndclab>,
KICT, IIUM

Assistant Professor & FYP Coordinator, Department of Computer Science
Kulliyyah (Faculty) of Information and Communication Technology
International Islamic University Malaysia (IIUM)
Jalan Gombak, 53100, Kuala Lumpur, MALAYSIA
Tel:  +603-61964000 Ext. 5653, Cell: +60163910754
E-Mails: spathan at ieee.org, sakib at iium.edu.my

Personal URL: http://staff.iium.edu.my/sakib/
<https://sites.google.com/site/spathansite/>NDC Lab URL:
http://staff.iium.edu.my/sakib/ndclab/



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