[Tccc] ComSoc techni...
Joe Touch
touchatisi.edu
Mon Jun 3 13:21:19 EDT 2013
Hi, Lachlan,
On 6/1/2013 1:14 AM, Lachlan Andrew wrote:
> Greetings Joe,
>
> Thanks for designing this questionnaire. It looks useful.
>
> On 1 June 2013 04:10, Joe Touch <to... at isi.edu> wrote:
>
>> TPC meetings in person are much more effective in discussing papers than
>> any alternative, for the same reasons as in-person conferences.
>
> In-person conferences are useful because they promote fruitful
> unplanned conversations that can generate new ideas and they build
> relationships. TPC meetings are about having a conversation on a
> particular topic, which may involve careful re-reading and/or
> verifying facts. The latter is much more suited to a multi-day
> on-line discussion than the former is.
>
> Another difference is that discussions at in-person conferences are
> between experts in the area. If all TPC members have read the paper,
> then I agree that an in-person discussion is the most effective
> option. However in cases like INFOCOM where the TPC meeting
> discussions deliberate only involve people who were *not* reviewers
> (in order to "review the reviews"), I think that the in-person meeting
> is less useful than a thorough on-line discussion between the
> reviewers.
Reviewing the reviews is the often unseen and a very critical part of
the decision process. It MUST be done by the TPC chairs, but at some
scales the only thing TPC chairs can (and still MUST) do is drop
incoherent or unsubstantiated reviews.
It is most important especially where the reviewers have not come to
consensus through thorough on-line discussion. That's the more typical
case for papers discussed at Infocom TPC meetings.
> A third difference is that most conference last more than 10 hours,
> and so the travel cost is amortized over a much more substantial
> event. Coming from Australia, that travel cost is typically ~50 hours
> round trip (more than the hours nominally worked in a week), and
> equivalent to driving an SUV ~100km each day for an entire year. If
> that isn't daunting, I'll book you to give us a seminar sometime :)
I have been to Australia for a variety of meetings (Globecom and IETF
included), and would welcome returning anytime, esp. if there were funds
available for travel ;-)
> I would strongly recommend that the criterion become
>
> "Of the three media (a) long/active on-line discussion phase (b)
> in-person TPC meeting (c) remote-access TPC meeting, the conference:
> E Employs all three
> A Employs two out of three
> D Employs 0 or 1 of the three"
This seems fine to me, though. Again, the point is to describe when we
think things are bad, OK, and "to be aspired to". Thanks for the suggestion.
Joe
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